Tuesday, October 6, 2009

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Mohamed Khodr's Column

Sharon to Peres: "We Control America"
Congressional Pandering to Israel proves him Right

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Sharon to Peres: "Don't worry about American pressure; we control America"

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"Any man who seeks to deny equality among all his brothers betrays the spirit of the free and invites the mockery of the tyrant."

- President Dwight David Eisenhower, Inaugural Address, 1953

"The first duty of society is justice."

- Alexander Hamilton,

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."

- President Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

"Equal and exact justice to all persons of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political...freedom of person under the protection of the law; and trial by juries impartially selected. These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us, and guided our steps.... They should be the creed of our political faith -- the text of civil instruction – the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust."

- President Thomas Jefferson, ,

"The poor man looks upon the law as an enemy, not as a friend. For him the law is always taking something away."

- Attorney General Robert Kennedy, Law Day Speech, May 1, 1964

"As lawyers, our first responsibility is, of course, to see that the legal profession provides adequate representation for all people in our society. I would suggest there is no subject which is more important to the legal profession, that is more important to this nation, than...the realization of the ideal of equal justice under law for all."

- President Richard Nixon, Speech to the National Legal Aid and Defender Association, October 1962

"The American people stand firm in the faith which has inspired this Nation from the beginning. We believe that all men have a right to equal justice under law and equal opportunity to share in the common good."

- President Harry S. Truman, Inaugural Address, 1949

"Justice, and only justice, shall always be our motto."

- President Woodrow Wilson, Inaugural Speech, March 14, 1913

"The first duty of law is to keep sound the society it serves."

- President Woodrow Wilson, Inaugural Speech, March 14, 1913

"Justice has nothing to do with expediency."

- President Woodrow Wilson, , February 26, 1916

"The law for the rich and poor is not the same."

- Plautus, Cistellaria, c. 200 B.C.

"There is no debt with so much prejudice put off as that of justice."

- Plutarch, ,



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Wednesday, September 2, 2009

Charlie Sheen on 9/11

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The above, Charlie Sheen on 9/11 is a set of Charlie Sheen interviews is about three years old.

Here is Sheen on Alex Jones about George Bush, etc.

This is how the "Independent" Bill O'Reilly covered this with Bo Dievl and Gerald Posner. On a Mark Cuban related note he was in legal trouble as he had pledged to release the movie Loose Change (this is the 2nd Edition) for nationwide audiences.
O'Reilly mentions Popular Mechanics Part 1 (appearance on Democracy Now), Part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5, their quoted studies taken on 9/11 data. This Loose Change Debate continues here on Hardfire with opposing views from Dylon Avery and "Debunker", author of Loose Change Guide, Mark Roberts 911NIST.com Program 1: Part 1, Program 1 Part 2, Program 1 Part 3, Program 2: Part 1 , Program 2 Part 2, Part 2 Part 3)

Mark Cuban was not allowed due to legal ramifications to release a planned movie, Loose Change for nationwide release (Floyd Norris NYTimes blog). A complaint was identified from the Securities And Exchange Commission. Loose Change (2nd Edition)

This is is a brief 1:15 interview with Martin Sheen about WTC 7. He According to Charlie his father can't or at least could not chance talking about 9/11. This was during the time that the elder Sheen was America's acting president in The West Wind on NBC television.

Tuesday, September 1, 2009

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Acclaimed author of The Secret History of the C.I.A. Over 40 years in journalism. Joe Trento


Monday, August 31, 2009
Podcast Show #5



The Boiling Frogs Presents Joe Trento







Joe Trento discusses our history with Iran-from the Mossadeq Era to the recent twitter campaign, Zbigniew Brzezinski’s foreign policy strategy and objectives in the region, and he talks about Israel, Saudi Arabia’s backing of Pakistan’s pursuit of the nuclear bomb & AQ Khan, the terrible state of US Media, the prospect of ‘real change,’ and more.


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Joe Trento has spent more than 40 years as an investigative journalist, working with both print and broadcast outlets and writing extensively. Before joining the National Security News Service in 1991, Trento worked for CNN's Special Assignment Unit, The Wilmington News Journal, and prominent journalist Jack Anderson. Trento has received numerous reporting awards and is the author of seven books, including America and The Islamic Bomb, Unsafe At Any Altitude, Prelude To Terror, The Secret History of the CIA, Widows, Prescription for Disaster: From the Glory of Apollo to the Betrayal of the Shuttle, and The National Aeronautics and Space Administration*For further reading visit Joe Trento’s site: http://dcbureau.org/





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Dennis said...

Really excellent show Sibel! One comment about your mentioning how the military industrial complex and the oil companies make out financially with all these plots going on. Let's not forget the financiers who are behind all of this - since as it creates more and more debt, they are more and more successful and in control.

Thanks for this show - it was very informative and clear.

Dennis
August 31, 2009 4:28 PM
Eric Pottenger said...

Hi,

in the show, Joe mentions something about the CIA infiltrating the Khomeini camp, before the revolution. I would like to know (from Joe or anyone else that knows) where more detailed information of this sort can be found.
August 31, 2009 5:06 PM
Sibel Edmonds said...

Dennis: Thank you. I truly enjoyed having Trento as a guest. He will be back soon. I will interview his partner Dave Armstrong upon my return. We'll cover the latest on Tinner/Griffin cases and more.

Eric: We'll have a follow up on these; hopefully soon. I can tell you this much: during our Cold War period, for a long period, Khomeini was treated as a great and effective ally against Communism. He received great hospitality and protection in France (the so-called exile period)...Also, our little brother, UK, was the BEST when it came to nurturing Islamic figures in Middle East...
By the way, these facts are commonly known in Iran. They are far more perceptive and informed than people here give them credit for...
August 31, 2009 5:16 PM
Kingfisher said...

@Eric

Check out: Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam by Robert Dreyfuss.

See also: Treacherous Alliance: The Secret Dealings of Israel, Iran, and the United States by Trita Parsi.
August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
Kingfisher said...

@Sibel,
How is your Uncle Napoleon doing these days?

"Also, our little brother, UK, was the BEST when it came to nurturing Islamic figures in Middle East..."

The real puppet-masters.*





*At least according to the LaRouche crowd, who publish some interesting stuff.
August 31, 2009 7:03 PM
Zach said...

The LaRouche kids peddle their wares for food and a roof, think of them as a less dangerous incarnation of scientology.

I'm willing to bet you've never spoken to any of them, yet consider the five people with a religio-political stranglehold on the mind of a bunch of hungry nobodies and a printing press a crowd.

In fact, it is almost exactly like staging a revolution.
August 31, 2009 8:25 PM
Kingfisher said...

@Zach,

Yes, I could care less for their movement. It is a pseudo-cult, and frankly they all have an awful body odor - like a Phish concert but without nitrous tanks and glow sticks.

I've talked to my share of 'Rouchers before; the majority are just trying to sell you on something or recruit you, but once in awhile I've been able to engage some in good conversation.

Their Executive Intelligence Review publications and books, I think differently of, however. They publish some interesting articles with a historical and strategic perspective not found elsewhere.

EIR is actually taken more seriously by South Asian security and foreign policy types than it is in the US. I've looked back at older issues from the 90's, and they were remarkable prescient on some things, like commodities and derivitives.
August 31, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...

Your best interview to date!!! Thank you!
August 31, 2009 11:04 PM
T said...

Hi Sibel,

Here's a suggestion. Are you teaming up with Cindy Sheehan to help expose all of this?
September 1, 2009 1:12 AM
Kingfisher said...

"Here's a suggestion. Are you teaming up with Cindy Sheehan to help expose all of this?"

And what would Cindy Sheehan do?

Does she have any insight into Central Asian geopolitics, nuclear proliferation, counterintelligence, or national security law?
September 1, 2009 1:34 AM

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Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Camp Lejeune residents blame rare cancer cluster on the water

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Camp Lejeune residents blame rare cancer cluster on the water

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One night in April 2007, as Mike Partain hugged his wife before going to bed, she felt a small lump above his right nipple. A mammogram — a “man-o-gram,” he called it — led to a diagnosis of male breast cancer. Six days later, the 41-year-old insurance adjuster had a mastectomy.

Partain had no idea men could get breast cancer. But he thinks he knows what caused his: contaminated drinking water at Camp Lejeune, N.C., where he was born.

Over the last two years, Partain has compiled a list of 19 others diagnosed with male breast cancer who once lived on the base.

For three decades — from the 1950s to the mid-1980s — the water supply used by hundreds of thousands of Marines and their families was laced with chemicals from an off-base dry-cleaning company and industrial solvents used to clean military equipment.

A 1974 base order required safe disposal of solvents and warned that improper handling could cause drinking water contamination. Yet solvents were dumped or buried near base wells for years.

“The Marine Corps knowingly poisoned their own people,” Partain recently said in his living room, surrounded by stacks of military documents and water analysis reports. “They were told about the water, and they did nothing. Nothing. And then they lied about it.”

Partain, whose father and grandfather were Marine officers, is tall and burly, with a shaved head and black goatee. His face reddens and his voice cracks when he discusses the toxic water. He maintains a website — The Few, the Proud, the Forgotten — where he posts material documenting the contamination and the stories of those who say it made them ill.

Military officials acknowledge that they were told as early as 1981 that potentially dangerous “volatile organic compounds” had been detected in the drinking water. However, the Corps, which has set up its own website (https://clnr.hqi.usmc.mil/clwater/) to deal with the issue, said that the two primary chemicals involved were not then subject to regulation.

It took time, officials said, to resolve questions about the source of the toxins and the validity of testing, which found different levels at different times. “Currently it is still not known whether or not the substances detected . . . were at harmful levels,” Marine Capt. Brian Block wrote in an e-mail response to questions.

Tests confirming contamination in the wells were not completed until 1984, the military said, at which point the Corps began shutting down them down. The Marine Corps, Block added, disposed of solvents “in accordance with generally accepted industry practices at the time.”

In men, breast cancer is rare. About 1,900 cases are expected to be diagnosed in the U.S. this year, compared with 192,000 cases in women, the American Cancer Society says.

Establishing a link between chemical exposure and a specific cancer cluster is difficult. But Partain and the others from Camp Lejeune say their illnesses are more than mere coincidence.

“God is the only one who really knows,” said Jim Fontella, 63, who served at Camp Lejeune in 1966 and 1967. He was diagnosed with breast cancer nine years ago. “But it seems pretty strange.”

Partain said there was no history of breast cancer in his family, and that a test for a gene linked to the disease was negative. Only two of the other 19 survivors — 18 former Marines and the son of a Marine — have family histories of female breast cancer, Partain said.

The website lists 484 people who lived or worked at Camp Lejeune and say they have been diagnosed with cancer or other illnesses. More than 1,600 former base residents have filed claims against the federal government, seeking $34 billion total in damages.

The military, Partain contends, knew details of the contamination earlier than it has admitted.

A 1980 report by a scientist working for the Army who tested base tap water warned officials that the “water is highly contaminated,” Partain said. A 1981 follow-up report said that more tests had shown the water to be tainted “with other chlorinated hydrocarbons (solvents)!”

In 1982, a chemist with a private lab hired by the Corps provided the base commander with a report showing “contamination by trichloroethylene and tetrachloroethylene” in well fields supplying two Camp Lejeune water systems. “We called the situation to the attention of Camp Lejeune personnel,” the chemist wrote, adding that his findings had important public health implications.

Trichloroethylene (TCE) is a colorless solvent often used to clean grease from machinery. Tetrachloroethylene (PCE) is commonly used in dry cleaning. Both chemicals are now “reasonably anticipated to be human carcinogens,” according to the Health and Human Services Department’s National Toxicology Program. But in 1982 they were not subject to regulation.

In April 1985, the base commander sent letters informing residents that “minute (trace) amounts of several organic chemicals” had been detected in wells. It gave no indication that the chemicals could be dangerous. That spring, one of 10 contaminated wells was reopened for use on four days to help alleviate a water shortage.

A 2004 fact-finding panel set up by the Corps concluded that base officials had acted properly and that the drinking water was “consistent with general . . . industry practices” at the time. However, the panel found that officials did not attempt to evaluate health risks for dangerous chemicals, and that a Navy technical advisory unit had failed to provide the Corps with the expertise needed to understand health dangers.

In 2005, Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency investigations found no criminal conduct by Corps officials.

However, an EPA investigator told Congress in 2007 that he had recommended obstruction of justice charges against some Camp Lejeune officials, but was overruled by prosecutors in the George W. Bush administration.

The Marine Corps waited until 1999 — 14 years after closing the contaminated wells — to begin notifying former base residents. That effort was part of a federal health study aimed at children conceived or born at the base during the contamination years.

Only in 2008 did the Corps undertake a more widespread effort to notify former Marines and family members who had lived in an affected housing area during the time in question. An online health registry now contains more than 135,000 names.

Congress required the notification after being lobbied by Jerry Ensminger, a former Marine drill instructor who blames the 1985 leukemia death of his daughter Janey, 9, on contaminated water.

Ensminger has fought to hold the Corps accountable, researching military documents and confronting officials. He learned that the water was tainted while watching a local TV report in 1997.

“I trained more than 2,000 Marines on our Marine Corps values,” Ensminger said. “Now the Marine Corps leadership refuses to honor those values.”

Partain said he had no idea his drinking water had been laced with probable carcinogens until he heard about congressional testimony by Ensminger in 2007.

Peter Devereaux, 47, a former Marine who served at Camp Lejeune from 1980 to 1982, was diagnosed with breast cancer in January 2008 and had a mastectomy. He said he did not know about the contamination until Partain contacted him last year.

“The Marine Corps refuses to acknowledge what they did to people who served their country,” Devereaux said. “It sickens me.”

Last month, Sen. Richard M. Burr (R-N.C.) introduced a bill that would require the government to cover healthcare costs for Marines and family members who were exposed to the contaminated water.

Shuffling through documents in his living room, Partain’s voice trembled as he described mastectomies and double mastectomies performed on former Marines he considers close friends.

“I’m missing half my chest. That didn’t happen by a fluke of God,” he said. “I was poisoned. . . . The truth will come out.”
August 26, 2009
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jonfrom Illinois Says:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

Praise God! The TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE! They messed with the wrong people this time. This wicked bastards screwed themselves when they messed with one of the armed services. Now the others will wonder if they haven’t been screwed like their patriot marine brothers.

My God! This is so sicking, that the Drill Instructor lost his little girl! My God, I’d hate losing my little girl! These bastards just don’t give a damn.

A must see book/article at militiaradio.com called “The Van Dyke Letters” about “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars”. Especially the “Summary” section. You’ll love it!! I assure you. It’s about these creatures plan to take us over and what they think about us plus, they’re chain of command folks. It’s an awesome book/article. Thanks to William Cooper that got it out world-wide.

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Saturday, August 22, 2009

Obama, the Health Care Plan (HR 3200), and Current Opinion

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American Family Association:

Here is a copy of the ObamaCare health plan. You better read it because you will be forced to live with it!

July 31, 2009

Here is an overview of the ObamaCare health care bill (HR 3200) which Congress is about to force every citizen to live under, except members of Congress.

Members of Congress will be exempt from being forced into this plan. They will have their own. The liberals, Democrats and some Republicans - while forcing you to join the plan - refuse to include themselves. Members of Congress will have a better plan which gives them freedom you will be denied.

You can read an updated and revised overview of HR 3200 compiled by Liberty Counsel.

Or, go to the full text of HR 3200 and read directly from the government website what this bill does!

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Washington Times:


  • President Barack Obama speaks Friday outside the White House prior to boarding Marine One and departing for the presidential retreat at Camp David, Md. (Associated Press)

Obama rebuts 'phony claims' about plan

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President Obama used his weekly radio address Saturday to directly address and shoot down myths and distortions that are flying around the Internet about the pending health care proposal.

Mr. Obama said health care is important and that makes it no surprise there is an engaged debate going on in America over the plans.

But he added, "It should be an honest debate, not one dominated by willful misrepresentations and outright distortions, spread by the very folks who would benefit the most by keeping things exactly as they are."

"Let's start with the false claim that illegal immigrants will get health insurance under reform. That's not true," he said, a few days after his former campaign apparatus now run by the Democratic National Committee started a Web site to combat that and other rumors.

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Mr. Obama ticked off the other falsehoods such as that the bill would establish "death panels," and said contrary to rumor nothing will alter the ban on using taxpayer money for abortions.

"These are phony claims meant to divide us," he said.

The president said "it's not true" that the plan would amount to government takeover of health care, adding the source of that fear is confusion over a public insurance option he wants included in the bill.

"This is one idea among many to provide more competition and choice, especially in the many places around the country where just one insurer thoroughly dominates the marketplace," he said. "This alternative would have to operate as any other insurer, on the basis of the premiums it collects. … It would be just an option; those who prefer their private insurer would be under no obligation to shift to a public plan."

He said the health care proposal would help families and said the final plan would make coverage more affordable and portable and that insurers would no longer be able to deny people due to preexisting conditions. The plan would require insurers to cover routine checkups and preventive care such as mammograms and colonoscopies, he said.

Mr. Obama also offered his refrain of late that the most important changes are tough to accomplish.

"It has never been easy, moving this nation forward," he said in closing. "There are always those who oppose it, and those who use fear to block change. But what has always distinguished America is that when all the arguments have been heard, and all the concerns have been voiced, and the time comes to do what must be done, we rise above our differences, grasp each others' hands, and march forward as one nation and one people, some of us Democrats, some of us Republicans, all of us Americans."

The president spends Saturday at Camp David before heading to Martha's Vineyard for a weeklong vacation with his family.

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Pelosi Says House Health Measure Needs Public Option (Update1)


By Kristin Jensen and Catherine Dodge



Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said legislation to revamp the U.S. health-care system won’t get through her chamber unless it creates a government-run insurance program to compete with the private industry.

“There’s no way I can pass a bill in the House of Representatives without a public option,” the California Democrat said at a press conference in San Francisco yesterday.

Pelosi drew a line in the sand on one of the most contentious issues surrounding the health-care overhaul after Obama administration officials earlier suggested the White House might be willing to back away from the public option to win broader support. Republicans and even some Democrats have said the idea is a nonstarter in the Senate.

“The government-run plan would turn into a bureaucratic nightmare,” Senator Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, wrote in a USA Today opinion piece on Aug. 19. “In the finance committee, six of us leading the negotiations are working from the premise that there will not be a government-run plan.”

Enzi last night joined in a call with the five other senators in a group led by finance committee Chairman Max Baucus that’s trying to craft a health-care plan. The panel is the only one of five congressional panels with jurisdiction over health care that is attempting to find a bipartisan compromise.

They’ll Meet Again

“Our discussion included an increased emphasis on affordability and reducing costs, and our efforts moving forward will reflect that focus,” Baucus said in a statement last night after the telephone meeting. He said the six senators plan to convene again before coming back to Washington in September.

The group’s effort is getting more complicated as lawmakers face protests at home and as proposals such as the public option draw fire. Supporters say a government plan is the best way to bring down costs and insure more people; opponents say it would expand the role of government too much and undercut the market for companies such as Indianapolis-based WellPoint Inc.

Obama yesterday reiterated his support for the proposal.

“If we have a public option in there, that can help keep insurers honest,” he told a group of Democratic Party community organizers in Washington.

Continuing the push for his top domestic priority, Obama asked the activists who helped his 2008 campaign to organize neighbors to support the health-care effort and urged them not to “lose heart as we enter into probably our toughest fight.”

Ratings Fall

Obama’s approval ratings have fallen as the health-care debate has intensified in contentious town-hall meetings held by Democratic lawmakers across the U.S. Obama, who spoke at three town halls last week, told supporters their help is needed to correct misperceptions.

The president said he’s willing to work with Republicans, while adding “there are some people who for partisan reasons just want to see this go down.”

A Washington Post-ABC News poll released today found that half of Americans oppose changes to the health system based on what they know about the proposals, compared with 45 percent who support them. Still, when asked about whether they would support a government-run option, 52 percent of poll respondents said they would, compared with 46 percent who wouldn’t.

The fissures between the chambers and the parties raise the possibility that Democrats might try to use their majorities in the House and Senate to pass legislation on their own. In the Senate, that means they would likely have to use a process known as reconciliation, which is designed for budget issues and requires only a majority of votes for passage.

‘Never Stopped Talking’

“We’ve never stopped talking about reconciliation,” Senator Ben Cardin, a Maryland Democrat, said in an interview. “It’s by far not the preferred option.”

Obama and top congressional Democrats say they favor a bipartisan approach yet have pledged to pass the legislation by the end of the year.

“We will not make a decision to pursue reconciliation until we have exhausted efforts to produce a bipartisan bill,” Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said on Aug. 19. “‘However, patience is not unlimited and we are determined to get something done this year.”

Senators have started conferring with their parliamentarian about potential problems with reconciliation, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters on a conference call today.

Finance Panel

The Senate finance panel is the only one still working on a plan. Three committees in the House and one in the Senate have approved their versions of the legislation on party-line votes.

Unlike those committees, the finance group is leaning against a mandate on employers to cover workers or pay a penalty. Instead of a public option, the senators on the panel are considering allowing the creation of nonprofit cooperatives with government seed money.

There’s also the question of how to pay for a plan that may cost $1 trillion over 10 years. House Democrats want to increase taxes on the wealthiest Americans; the Senate negotiators are weighing a tax on the most-generous health plans.

“Something as big and important as health-care legislation should have broad-based support,” Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican negotiator, said Aug. 19. “So far, no one has developed that kind of support, either in Congress or at the White House. We should keep working.”

Besides Baucus, Grassley and Enzi, the Senate negotiators include Republican Olympia Snowe of Maine and Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota and Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico.

House Changes

Hoyer, a Maryland Democrat, today said House leaders are considering changes to their plan, including raising the threshold for a proposed surtax on the wealthy to those earning at least $500,000 a year from $350,000. He sounded a different note on the public option than Pelosi.

“I’m for a public option, but I’m also for passing a bill,” Hoyer said. “We believe the public option is a necessary, useful and very important aspect of this, but you know we’ll have to see because there are many important aspects of the bill.”

Pelosi yesterday said lawmakers have to pass a comprehensive bill rather than a watered-down compromise.

“Frankly, I don’t know when we’d do it if we don’t take that giant step now,” she said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Kristin Jensen in Washington at kjensen@bloomberg.net; Catherine Dodge in Washington at cdodge1@bloomberg.net

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Obama's Big Bang could go bust


Stars shine in a galaxy, President Obama speaks and a town hall attendee yells.
Some Democrats point to a decision in June as the first vivid sign of trouble for Obama. Photo: AP photo composite by POLITICO

Barack Obama’s Big Bang is beginning to backfire, as his plans for rapid, once-in-a-generation overhauls of energy, financial regulation and health care are running into stiff resistance, both in Washington and around the country.

The Obama theory was simple, though always freighted with risk: Use a season of economic anxiety to enact sweeping changes the public likely wouldn’t stomach in ordinary times. But the abrupt swing in the public’s mood, from optimism about Obama’s possibility to concern he may overreaching, has thrown the White House off its strategy and forced the president to curtail his ambitions.

Some Democrats point to a decision in June as the first vivid sign of trouble for Obama. These Democrats say the White House, in retrospect, made a grievous mistake by muscling conservative Democrats in swing districts vote for a cap-and-trade energy bill that was very unpopular among their constituents.

Many of those members were pounded back home because Democrats passed a bill Republicans successfully portrayed as a big tax increase on consumers. The result: many conservative Democrats were gun-shy about taking any more risky votes — or going out on a limb on health care.

The other result: The prospects for winning final passage of a cap-and-trade bill this year are greatly diminished. And, while most Democrats still predict a health care bill will pass this year, it is likely to be a shadow of what Obama once had planned.

“The majority-makers are the freshman and sophomores from conservative districts where there’s this narrative building about giveaways, bailouts and too much change at once,” said a top House Democratic strategist, who requested anonymity to discuss internal politics candidly. “There’s this big snowball building in those districts. That’s why those folks are so scared."

David Axelrod, Obama’s political architect, said it was “very clear early in the transition” that Obama would have to attack a number of festering issues simultaneously.

“The times demanded it," he said in an interview. "We didn’t have the luxury of taking things sequentially, year after year, and hoping we got there. That’s the reason that all these major issues had been deferred for decades: Change is hard.”

Axelrod said the president is “looking forward to an active fall” when he returns from next week’s vacation on Martha’s Vineyard, and is not as worried about the outlook as the denizens of Washington, where “every day is election day.”

But the “Big Bang” theory of governance, as some White House insiders called it, is not without risk and consequences.

By doing so much, so fast, Obama gave Republicans the chance to define large swaths of the debate. Conservatives successfully portrayed the stimulus bill as being full of pork for Democrats. Then Obama lost control of the health care debate by letting Republicans get away with their bogus claims about “death panels.” The GOP also has successfully raised concerns that the Obama plan is a big-government takeover of health care — and much of Middle America bought the idea, according to polls.

By doing so much, so fast, Obama never sufficiently educated the public on the logic behind his policies. He spent little time explaining the biggest bailouts in U.S. history, which he inherited but supported and expanded. And then he lost crucial support on the left by not following up quickly with new and stricter rules for Wall Street. On Friday, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman echoed a concern widely shared among leading liberals. “I don’t know if administration officials realize just how much damage they’ve done themselves with their kid-gloves treatment of the financial industry, just how badly the spectacle of government supported institutions paying giant bonuses is playing.”

By doing so much so fast, Obama jammed the circuits on Capitol Hill. Congress has a hard time doing even one big thing well at a time. Congress is good at passing giveaways and tax cuts, but has not enacted a transformative piece of social legislation since President Bill Clinton’s welfare reform of 1996. “There’s a reason things up here were built to go slowly,” said another Democratic aide.

By doing so doing so much, so fast, he has left voters — especially independents — worried that he got an overblown sense of his mandates and is doing, well, too much too fast. A Washington Post-ABC News poll published Friday found that independents’ confidence in Obama’s ability to make the right decisions had dropped 20 points since the Inauguration, from 61 percent to 41 percent.

Axelrod and others argue Obama had no choice but to tackle all of these issues at once. That might be true for a stimulus bill and the bank and auto bailouts — but that case is harder to make for energy and health care, which have been the focus of intense debate for decades past and probably will for decades to come.

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